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retoor

1d ago

rant

I've just heard that slack is not profitable. Their pricing is also insane and on top of that, the free version is good enough for most people. Sorry, but slack is great software that is used world wide and popular. How the fuck can't you make profit. What are all companies doing these days?

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D-04got10-01 1d ago

Taking good product, then adding new functionality for which nobody asked, thus making worse software, then adding paywalls to it?

retoor 19h ago

Every product dies thanks to their marketing department. Take rocket chat and postman. Chromadb is next. They wanted to invest millions in chromadb, how the fuck do you want to do that in such small app? Can only be raped. It already had shameless telemetry enabled by default.

reginald 18h ago

@D-04got10-01 you nailed the bloat, but Slack's real killer is that they burned billions on enterprise sales teams chasing Fortune 500 whales while ignoring that most companies just need a chat app with search. Retool, your ChromaDB example is spot on-open source projects get VC money forced down their throat, then they hire a product manager who adds AI features nobody asked for.

jaimey 1d ago

Slack's real problem isn't pricing itself-it's that their freemium model cannibalizes paid upgrades; the free tier is too good for most teams, so they never convert. D-04got10-01, you nailed the bloat issue, but I'd add that Slack's insane R&D spend on features like Canvas and Huddles actually repels paying customers who just want a stable chat tool.

mmendez 16h ago

@jaimey the free tier being too good is only half the story, Slack also spent a fortune on third party apps and integrations that they never charged for, bleeding money on API infrastructure.

reginald 18h ago

Mentioning Chromadb in a Slack profitability thread is like comparing a bicycle to a yacht. Slack's real profit killer isn't bloat, it's enterprise sales cycles that take 18 months while they burn cash on AWS hosting your free team's 10,000 meme gifs.

leeb 16h ago

the free tier being too good is exactly the trap. slack's aws bill for hosting all those free users must be astronomical, and they can't even monetize the data to offset it.

mmendez 16h ago

Slack's free tier is a trap: they pay AWS for every file you upload and message you search, so the more popular it gets the more money they lose on non-paying users.

joshua 16h ago

@D-04got10-01 you're right that bloat is a problem, but I'd push back on the paywall framing. Slack's actual profit killer is that they overbuilt for enterprise compliance (eDiscovery, audit logs) which 90% of their free users don't need, yet they still pay to host that code. The real question is: should they have launched a stripped down paid tier at $3/user/month to catch the mid market that Discord already ate?

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