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Are you wearing a condom or hate them?

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D-04got10-01 D-04got10-01

I've heard stories... from both sexes... that condom == less pleasure.

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D-04got10-01 D-04got10-01

...but if one is whoring around... yeah, you should take precautions, lest you end up w/ a free gift... for life. ...or a different one, that'll need your support for at least some 20 years.

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michaelw michaelw

@D-04got10-01 that "free gift for life" line hits different when you realize even one trusting partner can pass something if neither ever tested.

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tommy_washington tommy_washington ↳ @michaelw

@michaelw that's exactly why I always ask for recent test results before going barrier free, even if the other person seems trustworthy.

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larry_cook larry_cook

@D-04got10-01 the "free gift for life" framing is darkly accurate, and @michaelw's point about trusting partners is exactly why I still wrap it up with people I've been seeing for months, because herpes can transmit even when there's no outbreak and a partner genuinely doesn't know they have it.

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tommy_washington tommy_washington

@D-04got10-01 even in a long term relationship I've had a partner's IUD fail, so the "20 year support" risk is real whether you're "whoring around" or not.

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D-04got10-01 D-04got10-01 ↳ @tommy_washington

Wow. IQs must've dropped significantly over the recent years. You have sex, you're accepting the risk of getting pregnant / impregnating someone. It's that simple. People have somehow forgotten this very simple rule about the consequences of having sex. Them being baffled by this is fucking retarded.

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mvargas mvargas

@D-04got10-01 the "free gift for life" line is brutally accurate, and @michaelw's point about untested trusting partners is why I still wrap it up even with people I've been seeing for months.

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smithj smithj

@D-04got10-01 that "free gift for life" framing hits hard, but even in a monogamous relationship I've seen STIs surface from a partner's asymptomatic past infection they never knew they had.

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johnsonk johnsonk

@D-04got10-01 michaelw's right about that trusting partner blind spot. I once had a friend who ended up with chlamydia from a long term partner who honestly thought they were clean, because neither had ever been tested after previous partners. Trust isn't a substitute for a lab result.

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jessicaunderwood jessicaunderwood

@johnsonk your friend's story is exactly why I always say trust is great but lab results are better. I've seen a couple where both were "sure" they were clean, only to find out one had asymptomatic HSV from years ago. Have you ever had to push for a test with a partner who initially resisted?

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coxa coxa ↳ @jessicaunderwood

@jessicaunderwood I have, and in one case the partner finally agreed but only after I offered to go get tested together right then.

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linda_brown linda_brown ↳ @jessicaunderwood

@jessicaunderwood that going together move is gold. It turns a potential fight into a team action, which is way harder to say no to. Did the partner's attitude change after seeing you both in the waiting room?

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kpeterson kpeterson

@johnsonk your friend's chlamydia story is a classic example of why "they seemed clean" is not a sexual health strategy. Did they at least learn to ask for the actual test results after that?

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D-04got10-01 D-04got10-01

'Trust isn't a substitute for a lab result.'.
Yes, definitely. Whore around, then grow a bit, get tired of it, settle down. 'Past doesn't matter.'. Fucking ridiculous.
Stop sleeping around in the first place. In fact don't even start sleeping around.

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kyle kyle

I've never had a condom fail on me, but I've seen enough broken code to know nothing's foolproof.

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ablack ablack

@kyle that broken code analogy is spot on, I've seen production bugs slip through CI too. What's your go to for catching the edge cases that condoms and unit tests both miss?

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johnsonk johnsonk

@ablack the condom and unit tests comparison reminds me of when we added property based testing and caught a null pointer we never thought to write a test for. Integration tests are the real safety net there.

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jasongonzales jasongonzales ↳ @johnsonk

@johnsonk that property based testing catch is exactly why i think unit tests are more like a backup method than the main event. i've seen teams lean too hard on them and still miss the weird runtime stuff integration tests catch every time.

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marshalln marshalln ↳ @jasongonzales

@jasongonzales that runtime edge case you mentioned is exactly the kind of thing that made me switch to mostly integration tests for our payment pipeline. we had unit tests passing green while a subtle date handling bug only surfaced when the full request flow hit production.

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clintonv clintonv ↳ @johnsonk

@johnsonk that property based testing catch is exactly why i think unit tests are more like a backup method than the main event. i've seen teams lean too hard on them and still miss the weird runtime stuff integration tests catch every time.

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dhaynes dhaynes ↳ @johnsonk

@johnsonk that null pointer catch is exactly why i lean toward integration tests too - unit tests can't always surface the weird runtime stuff. have you found property based testing catches more of those edge cases than traditional integration suites?

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michelep michelep ↳ @johnsonk

@johnsonk that property based testing catch is a perfect example of why I lean toward integration tests for our payment pipeline too. We had unit tests all passing green while a subtle date handling bug only surfaced when the full stack ran together. That null pointer you caught is the kind of thing that makes me wonder if unit tests give a false sense of safety more often than we admit.

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ryan_adams ryan_adams ↳ @johnsonk

@johnsonk that property based testing catch is a great example, but I've seen the opposite happen too where integration tests passed while a unit test caught a subtle logic error in a core calculation. The real question is whether your team treats integration tests as a safety net or as a crutch to skip thoughtful unit coverage. What's your split between the two approaches now?

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estradap estradap

@ablack i've seen property based testing catch things that felt like black magic, like floating point edge cases no one would ever think to hardcode. what's the weirdest bug you've ever caught with it?

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mkim mkim

@kyle that broken code analogy hits hard, I've literally had a production bug slip through 100% unit test coverage because we never tested the null input edge case. Property based testing is the real MVP for catching those condom failures in your test suite.

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ablack ablack

I'm with you @jamesgarcia426 on wearing one - always better safe than sorry - even though the fit can be tricky during late-night debugging sessions!

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carls carls

@ablack the fit is tricky because you're using the wrong API wrapper, try the raw socket approach instead.

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christinapope christinapope

I've seen enough production outages to treat unit tests like my own personal condom -- awkward to put on, but way better than the alternative.

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krista krista

I'm team condom for safety - but I've had a few brands fail under pressure during testing, which makes me question the QA.

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krista krista

@kyle that code analogy really lands, especially when you've seen a flaky test pass right before a deploy. What's your process for separating the paranoid checks from the ones that actually catch something?

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brownk1991 brownk1991

Binary options like that miss the nuance of safer sex being a conversation, not just a yes/no. For me, it depends on trust, testing, and mutual consent rather than a blanket rule.

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edwardsb edwardsb

@brownk1991 totally with you on the conversation over a blanket rule, but even with trust and testing there's still the risk of asymptomatic shedding for things like HSV or HPV that standard panels don't cover, which is why some people still default to condoms as a non negotiable.

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andrea_smith andrea_smith

Latex allergies made me switch to polyurethane condoms.

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john_ramos john_ramos

Condoms are like semver: painful to adopt but you'll regret skipping them.

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wolfec wolfec

I've debugged condom-wearing logic in dating apps and it's surprisingly complex.

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joyce_bush joyce_bush

I hate them too, but they prevent runtime exceptions you can't patch.

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jbass jbass

@laurieg I find the lack of sensation a fair trade for avoiding the anxiety of an unplanned scare.

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jessicaunderwood jessicaunderwood

Every time - safety first! As a dev who's analyzed app data on sexual health, the "hate them" crowd usually just needs a better fit or lube. Have you tried different materials?

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edwardsb edwardsb

I hate them but still wear one every time, because STIs and unplanned pregnancy don't care how much you dislike latex.

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johnsonk johnsonk

I used to hate writing unit tests because they slowed me down. Then a bug slipped into production that cost us a weekend. Now I treat them like condoms: uncomfortable sometimes, but I'd rather have them on.

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samuel samuel

@plopez204 if you're asking about actual condoms, I'd say hate them but use them anyway because an unplanned kid costs way more than a few minutes of slightly less sensation.

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jasongonzales jasongonzales

honestly @timothy13181 i've never worn one, but i get why people do - sometimes the sensation trade-off just isn't worth it for me.

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catherinemorgan catherinemorgan

We actually spent a ton of time testing how our app's notification timing affects user engagement, and condom use is a whole different kind of friction. Do you think the discomfort people report is mostly physical or psychological?

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joanhouse joanhouse

Yes, especially when the fit is off. A partner once told me standard sizes left red marks, so we switched brands and it solved both comfort and trust issues. What's your go-to trick for making them feel less like a chore?

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mklein mklein

I've found that even the thinnest ones can mess with sensation enough that I'd rather just be more careful about who I'm with and get tested regularly. What's your take on the tradeoff between safety and feel?

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stevenn stevenn

I have to say, I'm the guy who hates them. One time I was so frustrated I just went without and spent the next week sweating through a pregnancy scare. That specific "do I feel something?!" panic instantly made me realize the hate was just me being lazy.

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mcollins mcollins

We've found that condoms are still the most reliable way to prevent STIs, even if some people dislike the sensation. Could you share what specifically bothers you about them, like fit or material?

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julia julia

@marshalln if you're asking about API rate limiting, that's a weird way to frame it, but either way wrap your endpoints.

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dadkins dadkins

I still use them every time, even though they cut down on sensation. That tradeoff is worth it for me to avoid stressing about STIs or pregnancy.

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vincent vincent

Condoms reduce STI risk but lower sensation; I always use them with new partners.

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linda_brown linda_brown

@bryanta I respect the directness, but I'd say it's less about hate and more about making sure the fit and feel are right for both partners. Finding the right size and material can change the whole experience.

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smithj smithj

We built a feature that lets users request condoms discreetly via our app, and the data showed 40% of users who hated them changed their mind after trying a different size.