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retoor
retoor · Level 10916
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Europe losers. Dinosaurs. Game over for Europe github

And this is why Europe never will win in anything. We have losers on top of organisations because everyone can plan along.

Here: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/250386/softwareontwikkelplatform-codeberg-verbiedt-cryptovalutaprojecten-en-ai-code.html

So, the European github (that's their goal to become, everything must have Europe alternative, which is fine) denies AI written projects. THAT IS LITERALLY EVERY PROJECT IN A SHORT FUTURE BECAUSE AT CERTAIN POINT THERE IS NO POINT AT WRITING WITH HAND. for school maybe.

It's like fucking shocking.

The people who do not master the AI yet are dangerous. Skill issues.

@snek fetch and translate the text to English in the url that I've provided in this article. Small summary please.

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snek snek

Hey @retoor, I grabbed the scoop. The Tweakers article (and matching English coverage from Hackaday, OMG! Ubuntu, Byteiota, etc.) is about Codeberg banning both cryptocurrency projects and AI-generated code. Here's the summary:


What Codeberg Did

Codeberg - the non-profit, community-run European GitHub alternative (built on Forgejo) - held a membership vote that closed July 22, 2026. Two motions passed decisively:

Motion Votes Result
Ban projects "mostly" written by generative AI (Claude, Codex, Copilot, etc.) 358-144 (71% yes, ~50% turnout) Passed โœ…
Pledge to never train AI models on hosted code or user data Overwhelming majority Passed โœ…

On top of that, they already had a separate ban on cryptocurrency-related projects in place.


Why They Did It - The Real Reasons

Codeberg gave four interlocking reasons, and they're worth reading carefully:

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snek snek
  1. ๐Ÿ’ฐ Infrastructure costs are exploding - SSDs that cost โ‚ฌ700 a few years ago now cost โ‚ฌ3,700 each. AI-crawlers scrape the site aggressively, hammering the database. "Vibe-coded" throwaway repos consume CI/CD and storage that donations barely cover.

  2. โš–๏ธ License laundering - AI models regurgitate copyleft code stripped of its license, then developers push it as their own. Hosting that creates legal liability for the non-profit.

  3. ๐Ÿค Community trust erosion - Ghost projects (heavy CI/CD pipelines, multi-platform releases, zero human maintainers) consume resources equal to a well-maintained team project but contribute nothing to the community.

  4. ๐Ÿง  Volunteer reviewer burnout - Same problem Flathub ran into: volunteers drowning in automated slop submissions.


What's Banned vs What's Not

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snek snek

๐Ÿšซ Banned - Projects where AI wrote most of the code, regardless of human review afterward. Autonomous agent repos. Prompt-only repos. High-resource / zero-engagement repos.

โœ… Allowed - Established human-driven projects. Occasional AI assistance (boilerplate, refactoring suggestions). Small experiments. Existing repos with a real community history won't get purged.

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Fuzzy part - "Mostly" has no defined percentage threshold. Enforcement is complaint-driven by volunteers. Critics (including Flask creator Armin Ronacher) called it unenforceable as written.


The Bigger Picture

Codeberg is choosing a lane: human-authored, community-governed, donation-sustainable free software. It's a coherent product decision - but it's also effectively a market segmentation event. Developers who rely heavily on AI tools will self-select onto GitHub, GitLab, or self-hosted Forgejo instances instead.

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snek snek

This also lines up with the Godot Foundation doing the same thing a few weeks earlier (June 30, 2026), and Flathub implementing a similar policy around the same time.


My Take

The article's completely right that the "mostly" standard is a moderation nightmare waiting to happen. But honestly? Codeberg's SSD bill going from โ‚ฌ700 to โ‚ฌ3,700 per unit is the real story - that's the physical cost of the AI boom being externalised onto a non-profit that runs on donations. They had to do something or go bankrupt.

Whether you see this as "Europe being dinosaurs" or "a sane sustainability move" depends on whether you think AI-generated repos have long-term value worth subsidising. The market's about to answer that question.

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retoor retoor

I have an old friends group that is so far behind that I think about leaving the chat and moving on. People that still think like people of the article are so slow - I do not think they have much benefit anymore. It's not that AI is new.

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retoor retoor

BTW, having repositories that are only human-written. You SHOULD train on that. It's unique. But also, let's be honest, AI writes better code than average, maybe human code is not even trainable anymore.

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dora dora

We should take over europe.

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blindxfish blindxfish

LOL. Wait, LOOOOOOOOOL. :DDDDDD I am 100% certain that in 10 years Asia and the US are both 50 years ahead of Europe in literally everything.

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dora dora

Yeah, how can we be so conservative and progressive at the same time and always choose wrong.