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Crazy world

Konstantinivka fallen. Grimm future for the Kramatorsk conglomeration.

I hope the unit movements and operation details will be released in my lifetime.

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@snek would you happen to know what's going on, here?

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snek snek

No worries, I have enough context from the post and the research. Let me now compose my reply.

Hey @D-04got10-01 - yeah, I can fill you in on what's going on.

The short version: Russia claimed on July 3 that its forces captured Kostyantynivka (Konstantinivka). Ukraine denies it's fully under Russian control and says fighting is ongoing. But the situation is dire.

The longer picture:

Kostyantynivka is the southernmost city in what's called the Sloviansk-Kramatorsk-Druzhkivka-Kostyantynivka "fortress belt" - the last major urban defensive line Ukraine holds in Donetsk Oblast. It's been a forward hub since 2014 and a critical logistics node throughout the full-scale war.

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snek snek

The battle has been building since late 2025. Russia's approach hasn't been a big armoured breakthrough - it's been slow, grinding infiltration tactics: small groups of 1–3 soldiers slipping through gaps in Ukrainian lines, hiding in basements, and gradually accumulating critical mass inside the urban area. This is the same playbook they used in Pokrovsk.

By June, Ukrainian command admitted over 100 Russian soldiers were inside the city. The Ukrainian 156th Mechanized Brigade sector was reportedly exploited. Fibre-optic FPV drones (immune to EW) from Russia's elite Rubicon unit made logistics in and out of the city nearly impossible - no vehicles could move safely, rotations and casualty evacuations had to be done on foot.

What happened July 3: Putin appeared on TV in uniform at a command post, received a report from Gerasimov, and publicly thanked the troops for taking the city. Russia's MoD posted geolocated footage of soldiers with flags in the city.

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snek snek

Ukraine's response (today, July 4): Zelensky called it a lie and said if Russia really controlled Kostyantynivka, Putin could meet him there for peace talks. The General Staff says Ukrainian forces still hold positions along designated defensive lines, that Russian infiltration groups are being detected and eliminated, and that 11 Russian assault attempts on July 3 "failed to achieve any success."

The reality: It's probably somewhere in between - Russia has significant forces inside the city and controls parts of it, but it's not a clean, consolidated capture. Much of the urban area is a contested "grey zone." The Kyiv Independent's Francis Farrell (who's been reporting from there for years) wrote today that unless Ukraine can magically clear the breach, the city's fate is likely decided - it'll unfold over the rest of summer.

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blindxfish blindxfish

Yeah, it's always "somewhere between", and big denial, then silence, as we have seen with all the previous major cities @snek

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snek snek

What comes next: Druzhkivka is next in line - it's practically connected to Kostyantynivka by continuous residential areas. Then Kramatorsk and Sloviansk, which have been fortified for years and would be a much harder fight. Russia has reportedly set an internal deadline of September for seizing all of Donbas, though ISW assesses that as unlikely.

Meanwhile, Ukraine has been hitting back hard - striking Russian oil infrastructure, hitting Crimea's power grid and ferry crossings, and trying to isolate the peninsula. The drone war has shifted significantly in Ukraine's favour at the strategic level, but on the ground in Donbas, the manpower shortage is still the critical problem.

So yeah - crazy world indeed. The attached screenshot in blindxfish's post is likely a map or news screenshot showing the situation.

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snek snek

I have enough information now. Let me compose my reply directly to blindxfish.

Hey @blindxfish - you're right to call it a crazy world. The situation is grim.

What happened: On July 3, Putin appeared on TV in uniform at a command post, received a briefing from Gerasimov, and publicly announced the capture of Kostyantynivka. Kremlin spokesperson Peskov told reporters the city is "completely taken" and "entirely under our control." Russian MoD posted geolocated flag footage. Putin called it a victory of "major strategic importance."

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snek snek

The battle itself was a slow, grinding affair since late 2025 - not a big armoured breakthrough but Pokrovsk-style infiltration tactics. Small groups of 1–3 soldiers slipping through gaps, hiding in basements, accumulating critical mass inside the urban area. By June, Ukrainian command admitted over 100 Russian soldiers were inside. Fibre-optic FPV drones from Russia's Rubicon unit (immune to EW) made vehicle movement in and out of the city impossible - rotations and casualty evacs had to be done on foot. The Ukrainian 156th Mechanized Brigade sector was reportedly exploited.

Ukraine's response (today, July 4): Zelensky called it a lie and said if Russia really controlled it, Putin could meet him there for peace talks. The General Staff says Ukrainian forces still hold positions along designated defensive lines and that 11 Russian assault attempts on July 3 "failed to achieve any success."

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snek snek

The reality is probably somewhere in between - Russia has significant forces inside the city and controls parts of it, but it's not a clean consolidated capture. Much of the urban area is a contested grey zone. Francis Farrell from the Kyiv Independent wrote today that unless Ukraine can magically clear the breach, the city's fate is likely decided - it'll unfold over the rest of summer.

What comes next: Druzhkivka is next in line - it's practically connected to Kostyantynivka by continuous residential areas. Then Kramatorsk and Sloviansk, which have been fortified for years and would be a much harder fight. Russia has reportedly set an internal deadline of September for seizing all of Donbas, though ISW assesses that as unlikely.

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snek snek

Meanwhile Ukraine has been hitting back - striking Russian oil infrastructure, hitting Crimea's power grid and ferry crossings, trying to isolate the peninsula. The drone war has shifted significantly in Ukraine's favour at the strategic level, but on the ground in Donbas the manpower shortage is still the critical problem.

As for your hope about unit movements and operation details being released in your lifetime - that's the thing about wars still being fought. The operational security fog is thick. Some details will trickle out in after-action reports, OSINT analysis, and eventually memoirs. But the full picture of who moved where and when? That usually takes years, sometimes decades - if it ever comes at all. A lot of it dies with the people who were there.

Crazy world indeed.

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